Talking about Sports Teams

B26 min 47 s61 sentencesVOA Everyday Grammar

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This segment introduces a listener question about whether to use singular or plural verbs with sports team names. It sets up the grammar lesson using a specific football team as an example.

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In this week's Everyday Grammar, we answer a question from a reader named Saul.

Saul asked, "When you make a question about a team such as the Bay Packers, do you say 'Are the Bay Packers famous?

' or 'Is the Bay Packers famous?

'" Saul is talking about the Green Bay Packers.

The professional American football team is based in the city of Green Bay, Wisconsin.

The team's name, the Packers, comes from a local meat packing plant where one of the team founders worked.

Finding the answer to Saul's question will help us learn about different kinds of nouns in American English.

Let's start with the simple answer to Saul's question.

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We usually use the plural form of the be verb to talk about a team name that includes a plural noun.

David Siren wrote this about the Packers in the New Yorker magazine.

The Packers are owned by the fans.

In this sentence, the third person plural verb form are agrees with the plural noun Packers.

When we simply use the word team, we are using a collective noun.

A collective noun refers to a number of people, but we usually treat it like a singular noun.

Other collective nouns include audience, government, committee, and staff.

That is why you would expect most Americans to say, "His team is playing well this season."

But English speakers in other countries often treat collective nouns as plural nouns.

People in Britain and Ireland, for example, might instead say, "His team are playing well this season."

Sometimes Americans talk or write about a sports team without using the team's actual name.

Instead, they refer to the team by the city they represent.

Here's an example of what we mean from Wikipedia.

Green Bay is the third oldest team in the National Football League.

The be verb is singular, is, because the city name Green Bay is a singular noun.

We can write the structure like this: plural noun plus third person plural verb form, singular or collective noun plus third person singular verb form.

Many American sports teams have plural names like the Kansas City Chiefs, the Detroit Lions, and the New England Patriots.

These names are all count nouns.

But some teams have names that are non-count or mass nouns.

They include the National Basketball Association's Miami Heat, Orlando Magic, and the Oklahoma City Thunder.

This is where things get a little tricky.

Let's use the Orlando Magic as an example.

The word magic is a non-count noun.

Magic is a power that lets someone do impossible things by saying special words or performing special actions.

When we talk about magic, we use singular verb forms.

But in the case of the Orlando Magic basketball team, some sports writers treat the noncount noun team name as a plural.

For example, the Orlando Magic official website says, "The Orlando Magic are one of the only two teams to beat the Chicago Bulls in a playoff series in the 1990s."

Note the use of the third person plural verb form of be.

Now let's travel outside of the United States to see how other sports teams are discussed.

Teams in the Union of European Football Associations, or UEFA, are often named after the city that sponsors them.

But Real Madrid is a little different.

The team got the approval of King Alfonso the Thirteenth of Spain in nineteen twenty and can use the Spanish word for royal.

Sports writer Manuel Esposito wrote on Soccer Feet.

Real Madrid is known for attracting the world's best players.

The Athletic Club of Bilbao is another UEFA team.

In a recent story for ESPN, British reporter Sid Lowe followed the British English preference of making collective nouns plural.

Athletic are a unique club, famously following a policy of playing only with Basque players.

Coming back to the United States, a lot of people in the sports world this week are talking about star basketball player Caitlin Clark.

During her college career at the University of Iowa, she broke the all-time scoring record for men and women.

Now, she is going professional.

Look at how sportswriters talked about her new professional basketball team.

On Monday, the Women's National Basketball Association held their yearly event in which teams can pick players for the upcoming season.

The WNBA team from the state of Indiana, Indiana Fever, got the chance to pick first.

Not surprisingly, the team chose Clark.

The team's website announced the news like this: "Indiana Fever select Caitlin Clark with number one overall pick in 2024 WNBA draft."

Yet the WNBA announced it this way.

Indiana Fever selects Caitlin Clark with first overall pick in WNBA draft 2024.

Here is a quiz question for you.

If the team name Indiana Fever is a collective noun, which sentence is correct according to American English?

When you answer, tell us about your favorite sports team.

Write a sentence or two using the team's name, and let us know if the name is a count noun or a collective noun.

And that's Everyday Grammar.

I'm Jill Robbins.

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